We live in a world where Trump, Bolsonaro, Orbán, Duterte, Erdoğan, and Johnson lead nations. This is a damning indictment of hierarchical/centralised politics and governance structures. Unless we devolve our means of exercising political agency, expect more of the same.

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@aral You realise that Trump, Bolsonaro, Orbán, Duterte, Erdoğan, and Johnson are all popularly elected leaders?

@Korsier @aral yes, but I think that's partly the point: the amount of Democratic participation is minimal and very broad: there are lots of reasons to vote for e.g. Boris, but that doesn't make the voting block homogenous. Those diverse views could be better represented with more decentralized governance (hopefully).

@douginamug @aral Sure, that's a limitation of representative democracy. But the OP specifically names conservative leaders as being a problem.

@aral @douginamug By using perjoratives like "autocratic, far-right" I understand that this is about you not liking who the people elected rather than any specific problem with democracy. Is that right?

@Korsier @douginamug It is exactly what I wrote in the toot. I’m sorry but I really don’t have time to deal with deliberate obtuseness.

@Korsier Yes, that is exactly my point (also, they are “democractically” elected – the meaning of that term being pliable – but Trump, for example, did not win the popular vote.)

@aral By using the term "democratically" elected are you suggesting that these leaders (or at least their parties) did not get a majority of the vote? For a democracy to work the losing side has to accept the will of the electorate.

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